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I have a Zoom G7 guitar fx processor, a usb cable, and Cubase le. How do I record guitar on cubase?
No one can seem to just tell me how. Does anyone actually know? Im at wits end not getting this thing to even recognize my guitar signal.
Any help at all would be taken to heart. Thanks. :)
No one can seem to just tell me how. Does anyone actually know? Im at wits end not getting this thing to even recognize my guitar signal.
Any help at all would be taken to heart. Thanks. :)
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Re: Recording audio question.
Tue, May 26, 2009 - 1:25 PMTry these tutorials...there is some helpful info in them. If you still can't make it work, try the forums on the same site.
www.steinbergusers.com/cubase...bie.php
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Re: Recording audio question.
Wed, May 27, 2009 - 12:22 PMI guess the main thing to ask you is if you have already loaded the usb device as a sound card. This is your main recording interface so you have to make sure the driver's loaded properly.
Once it's installed, open up Cubase and on the top task bar, go to the "Devices" menu, then open up Device Setup. Go to your ASIO device selector and make sure your interface appears in this box and is selected as your main sound card.
If it does, then close this box and go to your main arrange page. Create an Audio track (either mono or stereo, for guitar, mono should work fine)
Now arm the track. Click the little dot that is in the track preferences panel (the panel on the very left side of the main arrange window), it will turn red. Then click on the very tiny button that has a speaker icon in it. This is your monitoring function so you can hear the audio come out through the speakers. Start playin some licks, you should hear audio come through your speakers now. When you are ready to record a take, just click the Record button in the transport bar and bob's-your-uncle.
This should set you up. If you're still having problems, check the tutorials. Also, dig through your guitar box's instruction manual. There should be a PDF if no physical manual was provided. If all else fails, send an email to the pedal manufacturer. You could possibly have a defective unit.
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Re: Recording audio question.
Wed, May 27, 2009 - 1:09 PMIf you still have no luck and you are using windows not a mac...
If your USB interface doesn't come with a driver then download ASIO4ALL.
I use the Light-snake USB cable for guitar and it did not need drivers. Windows recognized it when I plugged it in as a standard audio device. However it was practically useless, lots of latency and noise whilst using the generic ASIO driver built into windows that ASIO4ALL allowed me to record with little to no latency.
You can get it here: www.asio4all.com
This should pick up your USB interface and hence show up in the device manager of Cubase, once the ASIO4ALL driver is selected. -
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Re: Recording audio question.
Mon, June 1, 2009 - 12:26 PMI am having the same problem,
I bought the "Stealth plug" it said it was the easiest way to hook up your guitar to a computer, yeah right, I mean it was easy, the only problem is I had to change my ASIO driver to the stealth plug which brought the whole thing crashing down. Changing your ASIO driver is NOT the solution because sure you can change ASIO driver to whatever you are using and hear your guitar, but as a result of changing your ASIO driver from your sound card to whatever ASIO driver is for your guitar all you will be able to hear is your guitar, you wont be able to hear your track because you changed your ASIO driver from your sound card to the ASIO driver for your guitar. Trust me I have tried almost every way to do this, I mean if you cant hear your track while playing / recording your guitar whats the point, nothing you play will be in time with your track because you cant hear your track because you changed your ASIO driver and disabled your main soundcard so doing this is not a solution.
Other things I have tried so you dont waste your time, I realize the guitar needs to be pre-amped in order for it to make any sound at all, I have tried hooking up to a guitar amp then out of the amp into a studio soundboard then into the input of the sound card, from that I got massive feedback, then I tried skipping the sound board and pluged from the amp straight into the saoundcard, again it worked but with massive feedback. I use a M-audio fire wire 410 as my soundcard, it has 2 microphone inputs that are preamped and it has two plugins for it, a mic input but it also has a quarter inch input, if you have a quarter inch input on your mic input on the soundcard plug your guitar straight into that slot, now a guitar only emits a mono sound, so in Cubase just open an audio track, choose mono, and then click the little button on the audio track that has a speaker on it and boom you should be able to hear your guitar, but only a clean guitar sound, no distortion of FX or anything else just clean guitar, but I get no feedback, well maybe a little feedback, kinda like an air sound but I could deal with that because once the guitar is integrated into a track with all the other sounds going you would not be able to even hear the air feedback. On my soundcard I have a volume nob so I can turn the guitar volume up or down, depending on how hard you are hitting the string on your guitar to avoid clipping.
So yes I got my guitar to play on my computer but as I stated only a clean guitar sound, which if you play guitar you know this is not a solution because you can only play clean, no distortion or Fx etc.... also if you try this make sure you are pluging your guitar into the mono track on your sound card, if you have not already chosen a mono track on your sound card then when you open up a mono audio track in Cubase the sound card will usually choose its own mono channel, so plug in to the mic input, if it does not work then try the other mic input, there should be 2 mic inputs or more depending on your sound card. I also have pedals for my guitar, distortion and others, I tried hooking those up, I went from the guitar to the pedals to the mic input on the sound card again got massive feedback so that did not work either.
So basically I have not yet solved this problem, I have a couple ideas that I have not tried yet because I need to save up and buy the software, I guess I still own the stealth plug and its software so I can try 1 of my idea's, I was thinking since you can plug a guitar into the mic pre-amp input and get a clean guitar sound maybe I could use the stealth plug software on the fx channel on the audio track and be able to use all the stealth plugs pedals, fx etc.... I was thinking of getting the guitar rig 3 because it has waaaayy more stuff in it than my stealthplug software, but I'll try using it on the fx channel on the audio track and let you know if that works.
My 2 other idea's I have is to see if you can use the stealth plug or guitar rig 3 as a slave to Cubase the way some people slave Reason and other DAW's to Cubase, my 3rd idea is to get a microphone and just mic the guitar amp and just play through the amp, my 4th idea is honestly to contact Skazi and see if he will give out the information on how he does it because he seems to do it just fine.
Because your rack mounted guitar processor has a USB plug on it shows it is able and was made to be able to hook up to a computer, but you dont want to change your ASIO driver because you wont be able to hear your track and thus all your guitar parts will not be in time with your track, you want to be able to play along with your track so you have full control and lay down the riffs the way you want them. Check out the website of the company that made your rack mounted guitar processor if there solution is to download a new ASIO driver skip it, your next option is to see if they have stand alone software, if they do try that and you should be able to open the software separate from cubase and then see if you can slave that program to cubase. Shitty thing is this should be so easy, you would think someone would have come up with something simple and cheap to solve this problem by now.
Anyhow, I am getting ready to work on one of my tracks right now, I'll try using my stealth plug, which is like a much smaller version of guitar rig, as an fx channel on the mono audio track and let you know if it works.
Also know that once you, (we), get it to work when you record the guitar in mono you can always take that mono track and do a audio mixdown to a stereo audio track.
On a side note I know that guitar companies are working on a new type of guitar that has USB and fire wire inputs, and an internal soundcard and pre-amp that will digitize the guitar before it reached the soundcard, making it so you dont have to change your ASIO driver I have heard the guitars will be pre-powered by either batteries or actually having a plug that plugs into the wall, this could pretty much turn the guitar into a synth it would be pre-powered and digitized before it reached the computor, just like a Virus or a Nord or like most any synth. But you know these guitars are going to be super expensive when it comes out.
Trust me man I want to solve this problem as much as you do, I have been playing guitar for about 19 years and would love nothing more than use it in the psytrance I write now, most people dont understand that for a guitar player that also writes music on a computer, psytrance or any electronic music, there are processors and all sorts of stuff that we can use to change our guitars into almost any instrument, so for instance, I can not play piano or keyboard, but I can use processors to make my guitar sound like a keyboard, violins, congo drums, almost anything. So all these different instruments I do not know how to play I can now play on my guitar and then essentially I know how to play all those different instruments, plus you can do fx and all types of other stuff.
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Re: Recording audio question.
Mon, June 1, 2009 - 3:14 PMOk 1st let me thank you for starting this thread or I would not have figured it out, so thanks,
Not sure about your Zoom G7 guitar processor, like I said check there website, what your looking for is VST and RTAS I think, if they have that on there site download it, then try to load it to Cubase and see if something relating to your processor on your VST and Fx plug-ins, it should be named after your processor, Zoom G7, or maybe just Zoom, I am not sure what it will be called or even if there website will offer these downloads.
If they dont offer a VST and Fx plug-in you may need to spend some cash on a program, right now I have Amplitude 2.0, but I would recomend buying guitar rig 3 as it is wwaaaayyyy better than Amplitude, hell I am going to start saving for guitar rig 3 as soon as possible.
If you decide to buy guitar rig 3 make sure you just buy the software, dont buy the set with the big pedal or you will run into the same problem of having to change your ASIO driver from your sound card to guitar rig 3 which you do not want to do.
Ok, I figured it out, FINALLY, onto the fix,
You should have pre-amped mic. inputs on your sound card, open up Cubase, now in a track open a mono audio track, click on the little speaker button, (monitor button), make sure your volume is up on your guitar and play it, if you dont hear anything try the other mic. input, one of them will be the one that is set to mono. Ounce you get that to work you should be able to hear your guitar clean with no feedback. Now click on the little E on the audio track, a page will open where you can control volume, add fx and Eq, next to the volume there are blank spaces where you can load fx, click on the top black box and choose what you want, all the fx work if you have Amplitude or Guitar rig 3 or any other guitar programs they will now work, what else was totally rad that I found out that all the fx work on the guitar, delays anything you have in your fx will work.
Now if you are in a track you should be able to click on the record button on the audio track for the guitar, click the record button on your main task bar hit play and play what you want to play on your guitar, since you clicked on the record button on the guitar audio track that should only record that track and not record the other sounds in the track that are on separate tracks.
From there if you want you can do an audio mix down to stereo if you want.
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Re: Recording audio question.
Mon, June 1, 2009 - 3:50 PMAlmost forgot,
When you have the little speaker button clicked on and you can hear your guitar, when you record dont worry about recording all the sounds in your track, since you have the speaker button clicked on Cubase is only going record that Mono input from your guitar.
Now in order to playback and hear what you just recorded you click the small speaker / monitor button again and turn it off.
Now open up a new audio mono track, click the little speaker button on drop in whatever fx you want and repeat.
Now I ran into 2 small glitches that are easy to fix,
1st - after I recorded a guitar track, turned off the speaker button so I could hear the play back I got no sound, all you do is open another audio mono track, drag the entire recorded guitar track onto the new track and then move it back to the original track and as long as the speaker button is turned off it should play.
2nd - When I actually tried this in a track I could hear the guitar clean but the sound was not registering on Amplitude, all you do is load another fx, I just did delay, try the guitar, now the fx channel should be registering and all you do is just re-load your guitar fx.
Hope this makes sense, if not hit me up, its very easy.
All I know is I got it to work and am now rocking out over here without changing my ASIO driver.
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